The surging prevalence of type 2 diabetes in rice eating cultures such as South and South-East Asia makes your hypothesis look unlikely.
The problem is more likely easily assimilable carbohydrates generally, where we are talking about simple sugars, low extraction wheat flour, polished rice, ... basically highly processed foods.
White rice and white bread are probably pretty similar in their ability to send readings sky high. More in my experience than things sweet such as mangoes, bananas and citrus. My thesis also is that the complications commonly attributed to diabetes are really from the medical treatments of diabetes.
I have been taking frequent readings. Mine are up and down like a yoyo and I go into very high (in fact off the scale, but I know that I am perfectly fit & healthy so this doesn't scare me) but can then be down to close to normal a few hours later. Stress is associated I am certain (I am having a stressful year). But I think it has a lot to do with diet especially those carbohydrates as well but I am also starting to suspect that it relates to our cells electric charge which is impacted by all the shit we are putting into the atmosphere for phones, wifi etc. I got my lowest reading in a week after a rural bicycle ride in the somewhat cold rain. A warm shower this morning did not drop my reading by anywhere near as much.
My impression is that bug powder may have been ground in wheat for decades (in order to make people "get used to it"), and "gluten-sensitivity" is a reaction to the pesticides and/or the undigestible chitin...
Not sure I believe a word the BBC says, but if mangoes work, what the BBC says works... Of course, I'm concerned what they put on the mangoes at this point...
The issues with "giving up wheat and allied products" for an extended amount of time might not be the best way to test the theory as giving up those products will most certainly lower your blood sugar due to their removal. It's no secret that bread and similar products quickly raises glucose levels.
I am not saying you are wrong, obviously, just that I suppose I do not understand the premise. Are you saying that wheat based products are causing diabetes, or that wheat products are what predominately raises blood sugar levels in diabetics? If the former...well, I'd have to look into that a bit more, but if it's the latter, than I completely agree.
I am sorry if I digested the intent incorrectly, but I took it sort of like it's some kind of conspiracy level information, or something that's been swept under the rug by this or that entity.
Now that the devils advocate is out of the way:
Is Diabetes an allergy to wheat? I do not think so, but I most certainly cannot rule it out. Nearly everything we consume can be linked back to wheat based products. Or at the least, everything that I eat can be, heh.
For me, my blood sugar seems to be running right about 385 in the mornings, sometimes over 600 in the afternoon, and then finishes the day around 450. For the most part, I feel completely normal. But there are times where I seem to get overly tired, as if I am a child in need of a nap. Scratching that itch for about 10 minutes seems to clear it right up though.
Nobody in their right mind would tell me that this is fine, or healthy, nor would I want to spread misinformation. But the fact remains that the only change I made in my diet after the first 600 glucose reading was to cut out Code Red Mt. Dew and replace it with No Sugar Cherry Dr. Pepper.
Literally nothing else. My numbers fluctuate, but for the lions share of my day, I feel fine. The argument I get mostly is that "your bodies screaming for blah blah blah. " To which I can only say, I've done nothing differently in the 42 years I've been on this earth. I've avoided doctors for the most part other than when I was 2 and broke both my collar bones, and recently at the ER due to everyone pushing me to go.
Throughout the duration there has never been a time where I felt very far from how I feel now. This means that to my way of thinking, there is a baseline that my body has maintained within reason over all these years. This would include blood sugar. So either my blood sugar has always flucuated like this, which it hasnt, as I've checked periodically over the years due the fact my mom is a top notch ass rider about things and I've habitually sweat more than any 3 people I've ever met.
Thats another one of those things that's been true my entire life. Put me out in 30 degree weather and I'll sit on the porch and sweat, I swear. Put me in 80 degree weather, next to any 2 other people, and I'll fill a bucket of sweat first. Heh.
Sorry, that's a long winded way of saying that I am not certain high blood sugar is the enemy people think it is. I'm even leaning towards high blood sugar being a function of the body trying to fix something deeper, as that huge article you clued me in on stated.
While I am not super excited to let it be known that I relapsed for a day, it's worth it in order to tell you what I noticed during that day. It's no secret that shortly after giving up methamphetamine my blood sugar shot up to 600, even though I felt fine. So, it occured to me that since I was in the middle of a relapse....damnit, that I might as well check my blood sugar then.
126. The next morning, nearly 20 hours after doing the very small amount of drug, it was 158.
That was 3 days ago. Now it's in the upper 200's and rising.
I am not advocating for drug use, but I sure as shit an advocating for someone finding the mechanism thats keeping my glucose in the normal range.
Interesting. Stress definitely drives mine up. If I feel the stress in the morning I know that the readings (I've been checking a lot over the last 3 weeks to keep the doctors away) are going to be up. I have changed my habits as well and overall my readings are coming down. Not quite normal yet but a lot closer. Exercise after dinner (which is earlier than it used to be because of it), apple cider vinegar, tumeric (both of which are awful for the taste buds) and by Ray Peat lost of fructose directly from fruit and juice.
both have root causes in your gut. gut microbiome and leaky gut hypothesis.
I don't hold to the standard view of Diabetes at all. In fact I am utterly opposed to it.
Very interesting! I quit all gluten years ago because I developed Celiac disease. Feeling (relatively) fine since.
The surging prevalence of type 2 diabetes in rice eating cultures such as South and South-East Asia makes your hypothesis look unlikely.
The problem is more likely easily assimilable carbohydrates generally, where we are talking about simple sugars, low extraction wheat flour, polished rice, ... basically highly processed foods.
White rice and white bread are probably pretty similar in their ability to send readings sky high. More in my experience than things sweet such as mangoes, bananas and citrus. My thesis also is that the complications commonly attributed to diabetes are really from the medical treatments of diabetes.
I have been taking frequent readings. Mine are up and down like a yoyo and I go into very high (in fact off the scale, but I know that I am perfectly fit & healthy so this doesn't scare me) but can then be down to close to normal a few hours later. Stress is associated I am certain (I am having a stressful year). But I think it has a lot to do with diet especially those carbohydrates as well but I am also starting to suspect that it relates to our cells electric charge which is impacted by all the shit we are putting into the atmosphere for phones, wifi etc. I got my lowest reading in a week after a rural bicycle ride in the somewhat cold rain. A warm shower this morning did not drop my reading by anywhere near as much.
Soon, diabetes might be categorized as an infectious disease:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/what-has-been-causing-the-astronomical
The "treatment" certainly turns the body dependent on the poison(s).
As for wheat, apparently, GMO wheat has been introduced (with all the great pesticides that follow):
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/gmo-wheat-is-now-legal-in-the-us
My impression is that bug powder may have been ground in wheat for decades (in order to make people "get used to it"), and "gluten-sensitivity" is a reaction to the pesticides and/or the undigestible chitin...
Not sure I believe a word the BBC says, but if mangoes work, what the BBC says works... Of course, I'm concerned what they put on the mangoes at this point...
The issues with "giving up wheat and allied products" for an extended amount of time might not be the best way to test the theory as giving up those products will most certainly lower your blood sugar due to their removal. It's no secret that bread and similar products quickly raises glucose levels.
I am not saying you are wrong, obviously, just that I suppose I do not understand the premise. Are you saying that wheat based products are causing diabetes, or that wheat products are what predominately raises blood sugar levels in diabetics? If the former...well, I'd have to look into that a bit more, but if it's the latter, than I completely agree.
I am sorry if I digested the intent incorrectly, but I took it sort of like it's some kind of conspiracy level information, or something that's been swept under the rug by this or that entity.
Now that the devils advocate is out of the way:
Is Diabetes an allergy to wheat? I do not think so, but I most certainly cannot rule it out. Nearly everything we consume can be linked back to wheat based products. Or at the least, everything that I eat can be, heh.
For me, my blood sugar seems to be running right about 385 in the mornings, sometimes over 600 in the afternoon, and then finishes the day around 450. For the most part, I feel completely normal. But there are times where I seem to get overly tired, as if I am a child in need of a nap. Scratching that itch for about 10 minutes seems to clear it right up though.
Nobody in their right mind would tell me that this is fine, or healthy, nor would I want to spread misinformation. But the fact remains that the only change I made in my diet after the first 600 glucose reading was to cut out Code Red Mt. Dew and replace it with No Sugar Cherry Dr. Pepper.
Literally nothing else. My numbers fluctuate, but for the lions share of my day, I feel fine. The argument I get mostly is that "your bodies screaming for blah blah blah. " To which I can only say, I've done nothing differently in the 42 years I've been on this earth. I've avoided doctors for the most part other than when I was 2 and broke both my collar bones, and recently at the ER due to everyone pushing me to go.
Throughout the duration there has never been a time where I felt very far from how I feel now. This means that to my way of thinking, there is a baseline that my body has maintained within reason over all these years. This would include blood sugar. So either my blood sugar has always flucuated like this, which it hasnt, as I've checked periodically over the years due the fact my mom is a top notch ass rider about things and I've habitually sweat more than any 3 people I've ever met.
Thats another one of those things that's been true my entire life. Put me out in 30 degree weather and I'll sit on the porch and sweat, I swear. Put me in 80 degree weather, next to any 2 other people, and I'll fill a bucket of sweat first. Heh.
Sorry, that's a long winded way of saying that I am not certain high blood sugar is the enemy people think it is. I'm even leaning towards high blood sugar being a function of the body trying to fix something deeper, as that huge article you clued me in on stated.
Your last paragraph is where I am roughly as well. Trying to sort out what this is all about.
While I am not super excited to let it be known that I relapsed for a day, it's worth it in order to tell you what I noticed during that day. It's no secret that shortly after giving up methamphetamine my blood sugar shot up to 600, even though I felt fine. So, it occured to me that since I was in the middle of a relapse....damnit, that I might as well check my blood sugar then.
126. The next morning, nearly 20 hours after doing the very small amount of drug, it was 158.
That was 3 days ago. Now it's in the upper 200's and rising.
I am not advocating for drug use, but I sure as shit an advocating for someone finding the mechanism thats keeping my glucose in the normal range.
Interesting. Stress definitely drives mine up. If I feel the stress in the morning I know that the readings (I've been checking a lot over the last 3 weeks to keep the doctors away) are going to be up. I have changed my habits as well and overall my readings are coming down. Not quite normal yet but a lot closer. Exercise after dinner (which is earlier than it used to be because of it), apple cider vinegar, tumeric (both of which are awful for the taste buds) and by Ray Peat lost of fructose directly from fruit and juice.
and coconut, oil and yogurt.
Also a 2 day fast reset readings down 30% or more.