So how do they count ballots in Australia? Machine or by hand? Voting machines? Reps of each party sit at each stage of the tabulation process? Those are critical issues in ALL elections nowadays because the Psychos who now run most of the World will use every dirty trick in the book to ensure their paid stooges win elections for them.
OCR I guess. You mark the ballot in pencil or pen with a preference of who you want in, so there's literally no way for them to decide that Labor has won (as they have) if you were counting them manually. Too many complications with the preferences.
Thanks. Now with an example, I understood. The key point is that the BALLOT/one vote is ultimately counted only once. Proof? Total ballots of 30 after the round = total ballots after the final round. This one means each voter' vote still counts until the winner is decided. Because the total ballots = total votes, there can be no double counting like the dems do in USA.
The most difficult to understand is where the lower choices go.
Yes his appeal was too close to that of One Nation. Need to pull more of the Labor & Green voters away from supporting jabs. Morrison was boasting of having good jab policies in his concession speach btw.
My point remains: Albo will be more hardline than ScoMo on faccination. Proof? Albo said he will advertise to encourage more people to take it!!!
I am surprised and disappointed with the voters in the Labor states. Many had expected them to punish Labor for their dragonian covid policies; instead they did the opposite! So, they cannot and must not complain!
Our collective, or majority, choices have consequences on the rest!
This election proved yet again to me that the wealthy don't care about the bread-and-butter issues since they are not affected by them. Look at who they elected in those posh electorates: Lids - Labor in disguises!
When I landed in Melbourne back in early November 2020 (I was in Melbourne from then until January 2021) I was rather shocked by the media's beat up of 'wonderful Daniel Andrews'. There wasn't an ounce of dissent to be found. I guess that Mark McGowan is getting the same sugar coating treatment in Western Australia. But I really don't know how much of it sticks over how much of it is said to stick.
May 21, 2022·edited May 21, 2022Liked by Richard Seager
I told you, big George P. Millions wasted! Should have focused on the marginal seats and the Senate!
Only well-off people voted for the Greens and independents. As the ABC David Speers said, as I also said, the teals are on the left! Labor in disguise.
Excellent. It was about 20 years ago (when I still voted in national selections) that I heard someone speaking about the "lesser of two evils" when it comes to choosing which monster to give "permission" to rule over us. They said something to the effect of, "If someone murders 'just one person' and another murders 5 people, which one is the lesser of two evils? They are both evil." I never voted again in a national election after that.
Didn't see the pre-edit link. I guess I could check my emails.
The Teals in the Australian election are something to be studied as they got a substantial proportion of the vote from a standing start. They're not who we need as they're too run of the mill for that but do indicate what one needs to do to win if you're not in either of the major parties. The biggest thing seems to be that you need positive media coverage.
RFK had a party at his place where you needed a vaccine pass to enter. He put that one down to his wife.
I don't want to take everything away from these guys though, RFK seems to have radicalized quite a few. And Malone has hinted that he might consider there's no such thing as a virus. Need a bit more though. And Malone wouldn't even acknowledge an email I sent to him, and a message on his substack, about the list of YGLs which I figured his team must have sourced some of that material from me.
The Labor Party has been declared the winner, possibly by itself without any need for Greens or Teals.
So how do they count ballots in Australia? Machine or by hand? Voting machines? Reps of each party sit at each stage of the tabulation process? Those are critical issues in ALL elections nowadays because the Psychos who now run most of the World will use every dirty trick in the book to ensure their paid stooges win elections for them.
OCR I guess. You mark the ballot in pencil or pen with a preference of who you want in, so there's literally no way for them to decide that Labor has won (as they have) if you were counting them manually. Too many complications with the preferences.
Apparently manually.
https://www.aec.gov.au/voting/counting/
But not quite
"Scanning, data entry and human verification of millions of Senate preferences"
Pretty sure the results used to take longer to get out, end of Sunday if you were lucky.
I am still looking for a real clear and full explanation or example of how preferential voting works!
You put the ones you hate the most at the end, so that there's a smaller chance (but not impossible) of them getting your vote.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-21/how-to-preference-voting-australia-federal-election/100991154
Thanks. Now with an example, I understood. The key point is that the BALLOT/one vote is ultimately counted only once. Proof? Total ballots of 30 after the round = total ballots after the final round. This one means each voter' vote still counts until the winner is decided. Because the total ballots = total votes, there can be no double counting like the dems do in USA.
The most difficult to understand is where the lower choices go.
My guess is that if you give all your top votes to independents who don't go anywhere then either the Liberals or Labor will eventually get your vote.
Dunedin council elections are similar. They call it STV. I think it's far from transparent what happens with preferences.
Craig Kelly is gone!
Yes his appeal was too close to that of One Nation. Need to pull more of the Labor & Green voters away from supporting jabs. Morrison was boasting of having good jab policies in his concession speach btw.
My point remains: Albo will be more hardline than ScoMo on faccination. Proof? Albo said he will advertise to encourage more people to take it!!!
I am surprised and disappointed with the voters in the Labor states. Many had expected them to punish Labor for their dragonian covid policies; instead they did the opposite! So, they cannot and must not complain!
Our collective, or majority, choices have consequences on the rest!
This election proved yet again to me that the wealthy don't care about the bread-and-butter issues since they are not affected by them. Look at who they elected in those posh electorates: Lids - Labor in disguises!
When I landed in Melbourne back in early November 2020 (I was in Melbourne from then until January 2021) I was rather shocked by the media's beat up of 'wonderful Daniel Andrews'. There wasn't an ounce of dissent to be found. I guess that Mark McGowan is getting the same sugar coating treatment in Western Australia. But I really don't know how much of it sticks over how much of it is said to stick.
"Labor" is the official name of that Party.
Kristine K sounds like HRC - so fake!
She's ok for an upper middle class woman from the beaches.
She is hot!
Is this hot or not?
Babe!
LOL
She lost. Back to the beaches.
Will have to sell the 360k 1 bdrm she purchased is my guess.
i had hoped the auzzies had had enough of both parties
Notice how those "teals" attacked only Lib seats? Proving that they are Labor in disguise. Yet Labor had more marginal seats!
please don’t use the term ‘pox’...
The Aussie Cossack should be happy as Fiona Martin, Lib, has lost.
I told you, big George P. Millions wasted! Should have focused on the marginal seats and the Senate!
Only well-off people voted for the Greens and independents. As the ABC David Speers said, as I also said, the teals are on the left! Labor in disguise.
Excellent. It was about 20 years ago (when I still voted in national selections) that I heard someone speaking about the "lesser of two evils" when it comes to choosing which monster to give "permission" to rule over us. They said something to the effect of, "If someone murders 'just one person' and another murders 5 people, which one is the lesser of two evils? They are both evil." I never voted again in a national election after that.
Didn't see the pre-edit link. I guess I could check my emails.
The Teals in the Australian election are something to be studied as they got a substantial proportion of the vote from a standing start. They're not who we need as they're too run of the mill for that but do indicate what one needs to do to win if you're not in either of the major parties. The biggest thing seems to be that you need positive media coverage.
I've commented (Malone link). I figure the bots/trolls that are talking him up are the biggest concern there. He's also liked them all.
RFK had a party at his place where you needed a vaccine pass to enter. He put that one down to his wife.
I don't want to take everything away from these guys though, RFK seems to have radicalized quite a few. And Malone has hinted that he might consider there's no such thing as a virus. Need a bit more though. And Malone wouldn't even acknowledge an email I sent to him, and a message on his substack, about the list of YGLs which I figured his team must have sourced some of that material from me.